Updated Oct 8, 9:28PM: Peaceful Oath Keeper’s Newborn Baby Seized at Hospital!!!

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Update: Oct 8 9:09pm
The affidavit has been released and it states in part:

The state of New Hampshire

MERRIMACK, SS       CONCORD FAMILY DIVISION

7. Mr. Irish was court ordered to attend Ending the Violence with Scott hampton, however, to date, has not completed this program. The Epson Police Department stated they were very familiar with Mr. Irish, as they have responded to multiple calls, which involved Mr. Irish and firearms, one of which resulted in a pending charge for possession of a concealed weapon without a permit.  The Division became aware and confirmed that Mr. Irish associated with a militia known as the, “Oath Keepers,” and had purchased several different types of weapons including a rifle, handgun and taser.

As the information above indicates there are other reasons why baby Cheyenne was taken from their parents.

We remain in outrage that being a member of a political organization would play any role or be mentioned in an affidavit related to such a specific matter.  We at the Daily Tea Party do take these government accusations with a grain of salt. We have in the past heard plenty of first hand stories of abuses and exaggerations from these agencies. So we have to admit that our article was and is very pro parent. It is our hope that this family gets all the support they need from the freedom community.

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Boris in Miami

October 7th 11;52PM

“My fiance didn’t even get any time to bond with the baby. They came in and stole our child!”

Setting a chilling precedent and in a manner befitting the most tyrannical of regimes, the government seized a newborn baby girl today because the father has associated with the lawful, pro-peace, pro-constitution, anti-violence Oath Keepers. What makes this particularly scary is exactly that, that the ‘Oath Keepers’ is a peaceful, pro-rule of law organization which supports serving military, veterans, peace officers, and firefighters and reminds them of their oath to the Constitution of the United States in a direct and open manner.
This move is further proof of the radicalization of the government agents and their fear of the Constitution and the rule of law.  Why else would they be going after peaceful law abiding citizens who have are not charged with a crime ,and go to the extend of breaking apart the family bonds.

The father, Jonathan Irish, has helped organize meetings around his home town in New Hampshire for over a year, but as far as we are aware is not an official part of the organization.   His facebook page shows that he has an interest in the Constitution, the second amendment, the bill of rights, martial arts, guns, the Dukes of Hazard, and the bible. All thoroughly American interests.  The mother Stephanie Janvrin fits the all American girl part; Her profile shows two beautiful toddlers at her household and show pictures of a most normal family. She is 22 years old, has two gorgeous toddlers, and a thoroughly normal facebook profile:

“All a girl really wants is a man in faded jeans and cowboy hat/boots, who owns a big truck with mud on the tires…”

“is IN LOVE with a boot wearin, gun shootin, truck drivin, bocephus blarin’ country boy :)”

We spoke with one of their close friends today who told us that the family had been dutifully saving all their pennies for the arrival of baby Cheyenne, and that they were ecstatic at the birth and said that she was born a beautiful and healthy baby, and that the family was in shock the government could take away a baby from their family at less than 24 hours of age, when it needs her mother the most.

Baby Cheyenne was taken away at Concord Hospital  by the so called Department of Health and Human Services, and the Division for Children, Youth and Families (DCYF).

This story was broken by George Hemminger, who is seen struggling with pain as he interviews Jonathan, baby’s Cheyenne father:

“We told them that we wanted the have the pediatrician come check out the baby so that we could get discharged and go home… Well the director of security comes in with the head nurse and say “No we are going to take the baby to the nursery to have the pediatrician check her out so you guys can go home” They lied to us! They got us to allow them to take our daughter under false pretenses, as a matter of fact, we didn’t even have a choice. I tried to stop them and tell them to bring the doctor in the room and they refused to, and they just wheeled our daughter out… I see three different individuals wearing suits and I saw detective badges…. I am like… Who are they!? And she says DCYF which is Division of Child Youth and Family Services. Next thing you know three uniform patrolmen and I think 3 or 4 detectives… … and proceeded to tell me that they are taking my daughter. My fiance didn’t even get any time to bond with the baby. They came in and stole our child! In the affidavit… … it says that they know I have affiliations… … a militia known as the Oath Keepers. And first of all, I don’t know if you know anything about Oath Keepers, but they are a far, far cry from a militia. As a matter of fact the Oath Keepers frown upon any kind of uprising, I guess you can say, which is what a militia could be… …Tried to refuse to allow me to give my daughter a hug and a kiss… got to spend a few minutes with my daughter and then we were told to leave…”

The affidavit  said “… the Division became aware and confirmed that Mr. Irish associated with a militia known as the “Oath Keepers”…” It was in forms from the DHHS and DCYF and signed by “Child Protective Service Worker” Dana Bicford on October 7th at 11:57AM.

If we in this “Free Country” are not free to associate with lawful and peaceful open organizations, or have to fear what many have termed “abduction” of our newborns if we do, who are we free to associate with or to do?! What government department is going to list the allowed organizations if we are not to have our children taken away from us?  Where does it stop; are we free to visit with the Boy Scouts?

Jonathan Irish and Stephanie are at home with the kids.  Neither has been charged with a crime at the time of this writing and none are expected. We at the Daily Tea Party ask them to remain strong and to know that the Freedom Movement community stands with them during this difficult period.  Everything will be alright, this perversion of justice can not last long once the light of truth and media scrutiny is shined.

Here is the statement from Oath Keepers:

We are doing all we can to confirm and document this.  But if is IS accurate, and a newborn child was ripped from her mother’s arms because the parents were “associated” with Oath Keepers by simply being members of our online ning  discussion forum, then this is a grave crossing of a very serious line, and is utterly intolerable.  It cannot be done.  It cannot be allowed to stand.

If it is true, then I will do all in my power to stop it.   We will pull out all the stops, every lawful means of seeing that this child is returned to her parents and that all persons responsible are held accountable to the fullest extent of the law.   There can be no freedom of speech, no freedom of association, no freedom to even open your mouth and “speak truth to power,” no freedom AT ALL, if your children can be black bagged and stolen from you because of your political speech and associations — because you simply dare to express your love of country, and dare to express your solidarity and fellowship with other citizens and with active duty and retired  military and police who simply pledge to honor their oath and obey the Constitution.  It was to prevent just such outrageous content based persecution of political dissidents that our First Amendment was written.

If true, then this is as bad, and in fact worse, than any of the violations of liberty that our Declaration of Independence lists as the reasons for our forefathers taking up arms in our Revolution and for separating from England.  We no longer have freedom at all if this is allowed to be done.   And we will not let it stand.

Stewart Rhodes
Founder of Oath Keepers

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UPDATE 2:50AM

UPDATE : 10/07/2010 10.53PM PST — We have confirmed that the affidavit in support of the order to take the child from her parents  states ,along with a long list of other assertions  against both parents, that “The Division became aware and confirmed that Mr. Irish associated with a militia known as the Oath Keepers.”     Yes, there are other, very serious allegations.  Out of respect for the privacy of the parents, we will not publish the affidavit.  We will leave that to Mr. Irish.   But please do remember that allegations do not equal facts — they are merely allegations (and in my  experience as a criminal defense lawyer in small town Montana I saw many allegations that proved to be false).

But an even more fundamental point is that regardless of the other allegations, it is utterly unconstitutional for government agencies to list Mr. Irish’s association with Oath Keepers in an affidavit in support of a child abuse order to remove his daughter from his custody.    Talk about  chilling speech!   If this is allowed to continue, it will chill the speech of not just Mr. Irish, but all Oath Keepers and it will serve as the camel under the tent for other associations being considered too risky for parents to dare.   Thus, it serves to chill the speech of all of us, in any group we belong to that “officials” may not approve of.   Don’t you dare associate with such and such group, or you could be on “the list” and then child protective services might come take your kids.

Note that there is no allegation that Oath Keepers is a criminal organization or that Mr. Irish, in the context of his association with Oath Keepers, is committing any crime.  We are not advocating or planning imminent violence, which is the established line where free speech ends and criminal behavior begins (See Brandenburg v. Ohio, 395 U.S. 444(1969), which, as Wikipedia notes, “held that government cannot punish inflammatory speech unless it is directed to inciting and likely to incite imminent lawless action. In particular, it overruled Ohio’s criminal syndicalism statute, because that statute broadly prohibited the mere advocacy of violence.”   We don’t even advocate that the current serving use violence of any kind, let alone imminent violence.  We ask them to merely stand down.

Neither is Oath Keepers a militia, for that matter.   However, EVEN IF WE WERE, that also would not be a valid reason to take someone’s child away.  PRIVATE MILITIAS, JUST LIKE  OTHER VOLUNTARY ASSOCIATIONS, ARE NOT ILLEGAL, and it is not a crime to associate with them.   To the contrary, we have an absolute right, won by the blood of patriots, and protected by our First Amendment, to freely associate with each other as we damn well please so long as we are not advocating or planning  imminent violence or directly harming our children (and no, teaching them “thought crime” like “All men are created equal and are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights,” or that those who swear an oath should keep it, does not count — at least not yet).   A parent associating with a militia is not  engaged in child endangerment  and is not evidence of child endangerment (despite the shrill screeching of people such as Mark Potock of the SPLC, who desperately wants it to be so).   Just recently a Time Magazine article described how the reporter visited the happy home of a militia member and his family — and those kids are still at home, where they belong, as is the case with many th0usands of children across this country who have parents who “associate” with private militias and all manner of other non-criminal groups.   You had damn well better defend the rights of those parents to freely associate in their militias and keep their kids while doing so.   You can bet that if you let such an association be listed as grounds for taking children from their parents that it won’t only be militia folks who have their rights violated.   Homeschoolers, evangelical Christians, gun owners, etc. will also be on the hit list.  Just wait.  Remember Pastor Niemöller’s timeless warning:

They came first for the Communists,
and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew.

Then they came for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up.

A modern version might read like this:

They came first for the militia members,
and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a militia member.

Then they came for the three percenters,
and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a three percenter.

Then they came for the Oath Keepers,
and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t an Oath Keeper.

Then they came for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up.

So, defend the right of even the most hardcore militia members to freely associate without that right being chilled and suppressed by means of the threat of taking their kids.

But this particular listing of an association with Oath Keepers as one of the reasons for taking a child from her parents is all the more absurd, taking it to a whole other level of Alice in Wonderland “down is up” and up is down,” when you consider that a significant percentage of the members of Oath Keepers are current serving  police, fire-fighters, and military personnel.  Three of our state chapter presidents are current serving  police officers.   How can “associating”  with such fine men and women who are daily trusted with tremendous power and responsibility constitute  evidence of child endangerment?   How can it be that a New Hampshire police department can consider someone associating with other current serving police officers as evidence of child abuse and endangerment?   Only in the bizzaro world of the SPLC are public servants who commit to simply following the law, keeping their oaths by refusing to violate your rights ,considered “extreme” and “dangerous.”

This is the camel’s nose under the tent.  We need to fight even this one instance of such a violation of the right to associate and to peaceably assemble, and we need to push back against the new world of thought crime that is being relentlessly pushed upon us.   If this listing of mere association with Oath Keepers is allowed to be used in this case to justify, even in part, removing a newborn from the custody of her parents, with nothing else alleged about Oath Keepers except that the father “is associated” with this organization, that will have a sweeping chilling effect on the First Amendment protected rights of freedom of speech, peaceable assembly, association, and petition for redress of grievances for all of us — and it will only be the beginning.

OK, now it is TIME TO PUSH BACK — peaceably, of course, using our voices and pens.  Let the officials in question know that you strongly oppose their listing of an association with Oath Keepers as one of the reasons for taking this child.  Let them know you insist that they remove that “reason” from the affidavit and issue a public retraction, and until they do so, they will hear from all of us, and also from our legal counsel.   And we won’t relent until they respect our First Amendment protected rights of free speech and association and cease and desist this chilling of those rights.  Be professional, but firm.   Make them hear you.

Stewart Rhodes

Please help this family, we hope that you contact the news outlets to bring awareness to this horrible travesty of justice.  Please post any and all additional media outlets contacts on the comments sections and we will regularly updated them into the page.

http://www.dhhs.nh.gov/ocom/pio/contact.htm

(603) 271-4957

Media Contacts:


WMUR -
www.wmur.com Biggest regional TV Station and where we could potentially  make the biggest impact.

Adam Sexton

News Reporter

+1.603.669.9999

a_sexton@wmur.com

Jennifer Vaughn

News Anchor/Reporter

+1.603.669.9999

j_vaughn@wmur.com

WOKQ – Citadel Communications

http://www.wokq.com/ Biggest regional Radio Station.

Phone: 603.740.5050

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9 Comments

  1. According to http://www.infowars.com/government-seizes-newborn-baby-over-political-beliefs-of-parents/ That #7 item in the “affidavit” is actually from the document Irish was given in the hospital when they took the baby. The top portion (1-6) is from a motion presumably filed today since it mentions the previous removal of the baby from the hospital. The fonts are different, so I think they’re right.

  2. Okay, I just read the legal document. The child was taken because this mother has had TWO other children removed from her care, for neglect, and parental rights are being terminated. THAT is why the child was removed. The other stuff is just extra thrown in on top of it. There is obviously more as the father was ordered to classes for domestic violence and refused to attend. That is why *he* can’t go, the being a part of oath keepers is just something they threw in on top. If he had gone to his classes like he was ordered, they wouldn’t be able to use his “militia” ties against him. There is obviously WAY more to the story. As a foster care Mom and adoptive Mom, I can see the legal side of this. Fact is HER two prior children were removed and her rights are being terminated. It is legal process to take any further children away from someone in this situation. Once someone has proven that they are abusive parents, they don’t keep giving them chances to abuse. Know what I mean? You must take the Oath Keepers thing out of this. If that wasn’t even involved, this baby would still be in the custody of the state. That is all I am looking at. Take the whole Oath Keepers out of this and see that the baby would have been removed regardless.

    • According to a document filed today, Stephanie Taylor’s parent rights have not been terminating. A decision has not yet been made on the case. http://www.infowars.com/government-seizes-newborn-baby-over-political-beliefs-of-parents/ I have not seen anything that makes it legal to have taken the baby away from Jonathan.

      The same page has a piece of the affidavit which I believe was the one given to Irish when they removed Cheyenne. It clearly, cites being affiliated with ‘militia’ Oath Keepers, and purchasing weapons as if it’s ILLEGAL. He WAS ordered to go to something called “Ending the Violence”, but the doc implies that he still has time to complete the course.

      Has anybody gotten their hands on the whole affidavit?

      • Is Heather Brown the only person here with common sense??

        The baby was not taken away BECAUSE of his involvement with the Oath Keepers. The list of items is not a list of reasons for the termination of parental rights. It’s merely stating facts about the situation. Additionally, there’s no implication of illegality in his involvement that’s just your interpretation.
        I like how it says in the article: “Yes, there are other, very serious allegations. Out of respect for the privacy of the parents, we will not publish the affidavit.” It’s not being published because then people will know the real reason for the baby’s removal and you won’t be able to focus attention on this small, small mention.
        I also liked: “Just recently a Time Magazine article described how the reporter visited the happy home of a militia member and his family — and those kids are still at home, where they belong, as is the case with many thousands of children across this country who have parents who “associate” with private militias and all manner of other non-criminal groups.”
        You know why those thousands of children are with their parents? Because they aren’t being abused.
        I wish the people with the loud voices would quit manipulating the ignorant people with half-truths to further their agenda.

        • If the baby has been rightfully taken, that will eventually be know.

          Affiliation with the Oath Keepers is NOT grounds for taking one’s baby away. Period. That is now an issue no matter what happens with the baby. This is serious, and will not be ignored.

          Please also remember that neither Jonathan or Stephanie have been convicted of anything.

          • Mentioning any political group in such a serious manner as a baby seizure affidavit, does denote a bias, implies a danger from political affiliations and if unchecked would immediate “set a chilling precedent befitting the most tyrannical regimes”.

            By publicizing this, it is the Freedom Movement which is setting the precedent that we will not stand for any abrogations of our rights.

            I fully agree with LibertyMama, ‘Affiliation with the Oath Keepers is NOT grounds for taking one’s baby away…. … remember that neither Jonathan or Stephanie have been convicted of anything.”

    • “That is all I am looking at.” Huh? (public school education?) Will I be Arrested if I End a Sentence with a Preposition?
      “But an even more fundamental point is that regardless of the other allegations, it is utterly unconstitutional for government agencies to list Mr. Irish’s association with Oath Keepers in an affidavit in support of a child abuse order to remove his daughter from his custody.[PERIOD] Talk about chilling speech! If this is allowed to continue, it will chill the speech of not just Mr. Irish, but all Oath Keepers and it will serve as the camel under the tent for other associations being considered too risky for parents to dare. Thus, it serves to chill the speech of all of us, in any group we belong to that “officials” may not approve of. Don’t you dare associate with such and such group, or you could be on “the list” and then child protective services might come take your kids.

      Note that there is no allegation that Oath Keepers is a criminal organization or that Mr. Irish, in the context of his association with Oath Keepers, is committing any crime. We are not advocating or planning imminent violence, which is the established line where free speech ends and criminal behavior begins (See Brandenburg v. Ohio, 395 U.S. 444 (1969), which, as Wikipedia notes, “held that government cannot punish inflammatory speech unless it is directed to inciting and likely to incite imminent lawless action. In particular, it overruled Ohio’s criminal syndicalism statute, because that statute broadly prohibited the mere advocacy of violence.” We don’t even advocate that the current serving use violence of any kind, let alone imminent violence. We ask them to merely stand down.”

  3. Boris, I hit all the contacts you listed as well as those below. Some sites didn’t have a contact form, so I just made a list of emails for News directors, or whoever looked important. I started to list cities etc, but it was too time consuming. All except my town of Greenville, MS are big cities up the east coast from West Palm Beach, FL to Baltimore, MD……….so far….

    Greenville, MS
    http://wabg.com/CONTACT.htm
    http://www.wxvt.com/Global/story.asp?S=7900901&nav=menu1344_13
    http://www.facebook.com/pages/WXVT/117931794912?ref=search&v=wall#!/pages/WXVT/117931794912

    http://www.wapt.com/contact/index.html
    http://www.wlbt.com/Global/story.asp?S=241208
    http://www2.wjtv.com/jtv/online/site_information/contacts/
    http://www.wpbf.com/news/1847650/detail.html?CFID=44461491&CFTOKEN=75834767
    http://www.palmbeachpost.com/ (box bottom/left)
    http://www.wptv.com/subindex/about_us/contact_us
    http://www.pnj.com/section/HELPDESK01
    http://www.weartv.com/sections/station/
    http://www.myfoxtallahassee.com/subindex/about_us/contact_us
    http://www.11alive.com/company/contact/news_tips/default.aspx
    http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/subindex/about_us/contact_us
    http://wolo.com/individualContact (select Dave & Crysty
    http://news.mync.com/site/news/contact_us/
    http://wjz.com/contact.html
    http://www.wbaltv.com/station/1178818/detail.html
    http://www.foxbaltimore.com/sections/station/
    http://www.philly.com/philly/about/feedback/
    http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/feature?section=resources/inside_station/station_info&id=5770794
    http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/

    newsroom@nbc12.com, news@timesdispatch.com, dskipper@jackson.gannett.com, newstips@wtvr.com, banderson@wtvr.com, sbarnhouse@wtvr.com, nleasure@wtvr.com, mary.corey@baltsun.com, david.nitkin@baltsun.com, maryann.james@baltsun.com, jean.marbella@baltsun.com, jessica.anderson@baltsun.com, tricia.bishop@baltsun.com, newsroom@wmar.com, wadsworth@wmar.com, news@foxbaltimore.com, newstips@wflx.com, dbanker@sun-sentinel.com, alrosenberg@sun-sentinel.com, news@wctv.tv, triston.sanders@wctv.tv, liveatfive@wctv.tv, abc27news@wtxl.tv, newstips@ajc.com, talk2us@wsbtv.com, newstip@wsbtv.com, news@cbsatlanta.com, kimberly.deveaux@cbsatlanta.com, eric.ludgood@cbsatlanta.com, cal.callaway@cbsatlanta.com, news19@wltx.com, mjacoby@wltx.gannett.com, news@abc11mail.com, breakingnews@abc11mail.com,

    Here’s what I said:
    “Please help this family! A baby was stolen from her parents by child services because the father is affiliated with a peaceful group called the Oath Keepers. There are no criminal charges against either parent, and they are now home with their 2 toddlers. This is outrageous, and unacceptable. I am utterly heartbroken for their family. Please look into, and report on this story. Thank you!

    http://dailyteaparty.com/2010/10/08/alert-peaceful-oath-keepers-newborn-baby-seized-at-hospital/#comment-36

    http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2010/10/07/oath-keepers-statement-about-video-titled-government-agents-seize-oath-keepers-new-born-from-hospital/comment-page-3/#comment-12541

  4. Whoa!!! What do we do? I’ve sent a friend request to Stephanie on FB. It seems like money as well as a physical presence is needed ASAP. Keep us updated, Boris!

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